On the 28th of July 2021, !Mediengruppe Bitnik recorded Franco “Bifo” Berardi in conversation with Srećko Horvat and Saša Savanović on Vis. The conversation is about the meaning of the notion of “island”, autonomy, pleasure and death, extinction and resistance. And, of course, about the necessity and multiplicity of possibilities for the School of ISSA. The conversation was recorded on a very hot day (temperatures were hitting 40 °C), and just as the sun was setting, Bifo described it as a Philip K. Dick sun. The conversation took place a few days after Bifo visited ISSA for the first time.

Listen to the full conversation here: